Scrab

[Craig Lewis]

For which Engine - None particularly, might chuck it into unreal when I'm finished
Current Polycount - 1.269 million
Max Polycount - For the low poly, perhaps around 5,000 to 10,000-ish, not too sure.
Texture Size - Probably either 2048 x 2048
Description of background information on piece - It's a Scrab from the Oddworld games.
Where are you looking to receive criticism - Generally everything. I'm sure I've got things to improve on all aspects of my model.
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Thought I'd give this guy his own thread.


Made some more progress with it today, and I'm really pleased with how it's looking. I don't think I need to do too much more with the sculpt, just need to detail his shins up a bit, and that'll probably do. Or.... Do you reckon I need to add another subdivision and do high res stuff like surface detail on the skin, etc, or is it really necessary?

The sculpts not 100% accurate, firstly due to lack of reference (even my art of oddworld book has very few pictures) and also because I like making it up as I go along

Any tips or pointers on anything I should do to the sculpt would be much appreciated.

Got accepted into the topogun beta today, just waiting on my key for it, so I'll be giving that a go for doing the low poly version. It seems like a really useful program, and a good way of working.

[Jimi]

Huh, it looks so familiar... I have modelled two creatures like that some years ago.. they had hands though... To me it looks like having enough detail, nice colours. Maybe the torso area could be wider.

[Craig Lewis]

Originally Posted by Jimi

Huh, it looks so familiar...

Originally Posted by Craig Lewis

Description of background information on piece - It's a Scrab from the Oddworld games.

[Cijzerman89]

Yay I loved the oddworld series!
So how can I not love this piece

[Craig Lewis]

been working on the low poly today - I require crits!


Firstly, I assume it's far too high poly, is it worth continuing, or should i restart? Secondly, how's the topology looking?

Ta!

[glynnsmith]

Your edgeloops are looking really nice, fella. I'd hazard that it's a bit too dense though.

If you've gotten your edgeloops down, could you just try deleting a few loops? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't :P

Don't forget - the low poly only really needs to be concerned with the silhouette and the bigger shapes. Smaller shapes can usually get defined by the normals + a nice AO bake.

[Talon]

It looks really wierd that it has pectorals (3 sets!), clavicles and shoulder blades yet has no arms. If it has no arms, it has no need for those muscles or bones...

Your low poly mesh is looking decent, though. Maybe a bit too high poly, I think you'd end up looking at about 20k if you keep at it like you've started. Like Glynn mentioned, you only really need to define the big masses and the prominent silhouette shapes, everything else will get defined by the normal map and AO. So you can get away with pulling the loops that define the least amount of shape to free up some polys.

[glynnsmith]

Maybe the pecks are just massive abs? It's like Peter Andre vs Starship Troopers!

[Craig Lewis]

Originally Posted by Talon

It looks really wierd that it has pectorals (3 sets!), clavicles and shoulder blades yet has no arms. If it has no arms, it has no need for those muscles or bones...

That's what it looked like in the reference, though I've not done it 100% accurate to that anyway.


Dunno really, I quite like the way they look, despite not being realistic. He's a muscely badass.

Originally Posted by Talon

Your low poly mesh is looking decent, though. Maybe a bit too high poly, I think you'd end up looking at about 20k if you keep at it like you've started. Like Glynn mentioned, you only really need to define the big masses and the prominent silhouette shapes, everything else will get defined by the normal map and AO. So you can get away with pulling the loops that define the least amount of shape to free up some polys.

Cheers I thought it probably was too high poly, I'll try deleting some edgeloops, and see how it looks, though failing that, I'll just redo it, shouldn't take too long.


I tried baking out the normals to see how it's looking thus far, and I was pretty chuffed with how they turned out

[benclark]

nice topology in this guy

One thing i noticed is that the scrab in the reference is much more agressive looking than your sculpt, I think its the head position. The reference head seems a lot more angular, like its lower and sticking forward a lot more

really cool so far though, those normals came out sweet