WIP - Mossberg 590-a1

[biggest_kid]

Hey guys had some time to work on this over the weekend, and finally learnt how to setup a render haha so here is what ive done so far. Please constructive crit my work as i think i really need it.

This model is intended to be for game purposes, and so is the low poly version currently at ~2700 tris. I will do a high poly version once im done with the low.



So what do you guys think? What can i change/improve?

Thanks for any and all help,
big

[Tim27]

Looking promising, The stock could really do with more edges though, post up a wire-frame

[biggest_kid]

Ok had no idea how to render wireframe so here is a top and side view screenshot of the wireframe.



The areas near the breach and a little north-west(north being vertically up) of the trigger look messy, but that is just because the wireframe shows lines on the other side of the model as well, oh well thats what happens when you cant render in wireframe haha.

Anyway proceed please...

[PoLLuX]

Look nice atm, like Tim27 said it needs more edges at the stock, its pretty hard edge, the rest is looking good so far.

To render wireframe (if you use maya) check out maya vector render if it's max i dont know xD

for max maybe this can help out - Rendering a wire frame image out of Max

and this is for maya Wireframe Rendering | maya tutorials

[biggest_kid]

Are you talking about the bottom edge of the stock? Is that the hard edge you guys are talking about?

Also what would be a good tri limit for a low poly game model such as this one? I was thinking of capping it at 3500 max.

[PoLLuX]

I was talking about the stock itself, the back face its too squarish but since its for a game (if it's FPS) you hardly will see the stock itself when its equipped. So i guess you just need to round it a bit, changing a bit of it's shape.

As you can see in this image the stock is rounded up http://sgcusa.com/images/supporting_...rkerized_C.jpg, you don't need to make it rounded like this, just get it less squarish.

Hope you understand what i mean

About your last question i'm not sure which number is a good tri limit for a game model, i'm sure someone can answer that soon.

[HollowIchigoBanki]

The stock look to fat to me it looks like it should be alot thinner and it also needs to be more rounded

[biggest_kid]

Yes i thought the stock looked a bit fat too, but it matches my reference images fine so i just decided to leave it. Has anyone else noticed this?

And ill go and apply some chamfers and see if i cant get the stock looking a little more rounded now.

EDIT:
Ok had a look and there is already enough edges there to make it look rounder, but i dont know how to alter them so that they do make the stock more rounded. As you can see where the arrow is there is ample edges, yet i dont know how to move them. Anyone got any ideas?



Thanks

[dermaeher88]

switch to vertex mode and move the verts around to give a round shape. A lot can be done by manually moving verts in your model.

also, you might want to read up on smoothing groups a little bit. it looks like you have a lot of polys that don't have any smoothing assigned to them.

YouTube - 3D Studio's Max Smoothing Groups Tutorial

[biggest_kid]

Ok played around with manually moving the vertices, should be easy enough to do. I will round off the stock and post up some pics as soon as i get home from soccer today.

Also, i did some work with smoothing groups a while back, but that was a long time ago, so i will read up on them and see if i can apply them to this model. At the moment i have not altered/applied any smoothing groups.

EDIT:

Ok got a pretty decent result i think after about only 10 minutes of shifting the vertices.


What do you guys think? Is it round enough now? Also found a problem with the vertices of the handle not lining up correctly with the vertices of the frame, which is causing some of the weird shading u can see in the renders.