Competition #15 - David_Mac

David_Mac · 24-09-2008, 01:01 AM

Howdy folks-

First comp so I hope you'll have a little patience with me. I'm here to try & force myself to tool around with new ideas and aesthetics.

I inadvertently picked up a book on Bosch while trying to come up with ideas for this comp. A few pages in and I figured it'd be some fun to attempt to contemporise his take on the grotesque. Shot off a quick concept sketch based on a couple of his depictions of augmented physicality and whacked a few placeholders down in Blender.

Figured the television screens would serve as a good way to get 2d references to Boschs' minute demons & angels into the piece without blowing countless polygons. Given the state of Australian television programming I don't think it's unfair to depict the television set as a source of unease and discomfiture.

Set a camera down in Blender and developed my placeholder meshes in Z-Brush with a little re-topo in Blender once done.

Initial thoughts for colour palette side with flourescent hues, based on a few cheesy 'happy unicorn' party hats that someone gave me recently... they're remarkably awful to look at, and I hope to be able to put their upsetting palettes to use in this scene.

Figuring that lighting will primarily be driven by the television sets, lighting emitted and baked to the textures via a radiosity pass.

snake85027 · 24-09-2008, 05:48 PM

could you share those lines from the book with us?

David_Mac · 25-09-2008, 12:19 AM

Not really text so much as a sequence of printed reproductions of his work. A link to the triptych that really impressed me, 'The Garden of Earthly Delight', can be found here.

David_Mac · 29-09-2008, 08:48 AM

Hmm... might need another session to finishing modelling and UVing this lemon. Got that horrid 'too many features, not enough time' feeling.

David_Mac · 30-09-2008, 01:05 AM

Ok then... finished up the modelling. I'll be darned if 10k tris aren't difficult to use well... rarely take a model over 5k tris, so found myself a little lost attempting to add detail at this stage.

Attached is detail from the party hat that I'm going to sample create my colour palette. Got the horrid task of UV mapping coming up later tonight, and not looking forward to it. Fore then I might have to move the bum-guy a little closer to the camera, just to bring him back to the centre of the action.

Think the Bosch idea is slowly fading into a standard Gieger run... hopefully the palette will shift things a little out of that rut, while good use of those telly screens might lend a little narrative to the scene... which its' kinda' lacking atm.

Tiros · 30-09-2008, 01:19 AM

The painting "Garden of earthly delight" was pretty cool and intresting, I can't really say I fancy art that much, but it was intresting to look at.. then I found this little guy here, hehe:

Owch... is that a flute or a drumstick?

Anyway, I'm kind of confused how this all goes together, the painting, your sci-fi'ish environment and my little pony.. I didn't pay too much attention to the drawing there and things you tried to get inspiration from there, but my little pony, dude.. how are ya gonna pull that off?

If what you meant was that you're trying to stay away from that colourpalette however, then I'd say, logical desicion for such a scene

Cheers!

David_Mac · 30-09-2008, 08:14 AM

lmao- yea- I get your point, Tiros ;-) Not sure if it's a flute or a drumstick. From what I've read thats' detail from a depiction of the musician's hell... where all the music smells funny.

I'm using the colour palette from the party-hat as it represents a palette that I wouldn't be able to create myself... to my eye they're lucid, horrible hues and I hope to impart some of that unease on my asset. I've textured 95% blue-grey-brown scenes in my time, and typically most of the stuff that I've made in the past looks like it's come staight out of a bad Sci-fi film or a MManson video... what I'm trying to do here is get away from my usual approach to generating this stuff and tap a few uncommon resources. I'm most probably going to go down in flames, but not without learning something useful (even if its' only 'stay away from flourescent pinks').

David_Mac · 30-09-2008, 11:47 AM

Hmm... UVs 75% done and procedural textures in place in an attemt to block in the colour...

Looking pretty garish.. this is going to be tougher than expected.

Any comments appreciated... get back to the default sci-fi blue-greys, or push on with the circus job? Going to have a sleep on it.

24-09-2008, 01:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
David_Mac New Member 7 - 0	Competition #15 - David_Mac Howdy folks- First comp so I hope you'll have a little patience with me. I'm here to try & force myself to tool around with new ideas and aesthetics. I inadvertently picked up a book on Bosch while trying to come up with ideas for this comp. A few pages in and I figured it'd be some fun to attempt to contemporise his take on the grotesque. Shot off a quick concept sketch based on a couple of his depictions of augmented physicality and whacked a few placeholders down in Blender. Figured the television screens would serve as a good way to get 2d references to Boschs' minute demons & angels into the piece without blowing countless polygons. Given the state of Australian television programming I don't think it's unfair to depict the television set as a source of unease and discomfiture. Set a camera down in Blender and developed my placeholder meshes in Z-Brush with a little re-topo in Blender once done. Initial thoughts for colour palette side with flourescent hues, based on a few cheesy 'happy unicorn' party hats that someone gave me recently... they're remarkably awful to look at, and I hope to be able to put their upsetting palettes to use in this scene. Figuring that lighting will primarily be driven by the television sets, lighting emitted and baked to the textures via a radiosity pass. Last edited by David_Mac; 24-09-2008 at 01:32 AM.

25-09-2008, 12:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
David_Mac New Member 7 - 0	Not really text so much as a sequence of printed reproductions of his work. A link to the triptych that really impressed me, 'The Garden of Earthly Delight', can be found here. Last edited by David_Mac; 25-09-2008 at 12:21 AM.

30-09-2008, 01:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tiros Freelancer 2,472 - 819	The painting "Garden of earthly delight" was pretty cool and intresting, I can't really say I fancy art that much, but it was intresting to look at.. then I found this little guy here, hehe: Owch... is that a flute or a drumstick? Anyway, I'm kind of confused how this all goes together, the painting, your sci-fi'ish environment and my little pony.. I didn't pay too much attention to the drawing there and things you tried to get inspiration from there, but my little pony, dude.. how are ya gonna pull that off? If what you meant was that you're trying to stay away from that colourpalette however, then I'd say, logical desicion for such a scene Cheers! __________________ - Temp Portfolio \| Sketchbook Thread \| Spec/Normals Tutorial \| Metal Base Tutorial - Supporter of good crits

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24-09-2008, 05:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
snake85027 Senior Member 518 - 185	could you share those lines from the book with us?

29-09-2008, 08:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
David_Mac New Member 7 - 0	Hmm... might need another session to finishing modelling and UVing this lemon. Got that horrid 'too many features, not enough time' feeling.

30-09-2008, 01:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
David_Mac New Member 7 - 0	Ok then... finished up the modelling. I'll be darned if 10k tris aren't difficult to use well... rarely take a model over 5k tris, so found myself a little lost attempting to add detail at this stage. Attached is detail from the party hat that I'm going to sample create my colour palette. Got the horrid task of UV mapping coming up later tonight, and not looking forward to it. Fore then I might have to move the bum-guy a little closer to the camera, just to bring him back to the centre of the action. Think the Bosch idea is slowly fading into a standard Gieger run... hopefully the palette will shift things a little out of that rut, while good use of those telly screens might lend a little narrative to the scene... which its' kinda' lacking atm.

30-09-2008, 08:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
David_Mac New Member 7 - 0	lmao- yea- I get your point, Tiros ;-) Not sure if it's a flute or a drumstick. From what I've read thats' detail from a depiction of the musician's hell... where all the music smells funny. I'm using the colour palette from the party-hat as it represents a palette that I wouldn't be able to create myself... to my eye they're lucid, horrible hues and I hope to impart some of that unease on my asset. I've textured 95% blue-grey-brown scenes in my time, and typically most of the stuff that I've made in the past looks like it's come staight out of a bad Sci-fi film or a MManson video... what I'm trying to do here is get away from my usual approach to generating this stuff and tap a few uncommon resources. I'm most probably going to go down in flames, but not without learning something useful (even if its' only 'stay away from flourescent pinks').

30-09-2008, 11:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
David_Mac New Member 7 - 0	Hmm... UVs 75% done and procedural textures in place in an attemt to block in the colour... Looking pretty garish.. this is going to be tougher than expected. Any comments appreciated... get back to the default sci-fi blue-greys, or push on with the circus job? Going to have a sleep on it.